jim, welcome. first of all, how big a campaign are we talking about? and how unusual is it for this to take place? >> well, in terms of... compared to the presidential campaign, this is not like hundreds of millions of dollars. this at the most will be single-digit millions, at most. but these are television ads in five or six states, newspaper ads, web ads, phone calls, mailers, and there are at least six groups on the conservative side and then two kind loosely formed supporting greums of republicans and democrats on the other side >> woodruff: and on the against side, what is motivating them? >> well, the motivation is, as i'm sure guys... i know you guys have covered exhaust tively is former senator hagel's views on israel, some of his comments about the so-called jewish lobby and one group raises some of his comments about gays and some of his positions on gay rights. >> woodruff: and how much money? you said six groups. who is funding these different groups? >> well, there's the rub. that's what makes this so unusual. we don't see these kinds of